Thanks for all the insights, folks. In my case, I view it as part of my duty to my wife, kids, grandkids, all of whom I have to accept partial responsibility for as far as their being involved....thankfully, all of them are comfortably on the periphery, i.e., career and education-oriented, playing organized sports, honoring Mothers and Fathers Days, going and then not going to meetings, etc. , etc. ... they treat JWism are more or less like their religion, aren't judgmental about non-JWs......in short it's their "religion" ..... they regard as "fanatic" any effort to guilt them into "doing more" and are adept at politely tuning it out.
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For JWs Who Now 'Smell The Coffee:' A Survival Mechanism
by Room 215 infor those of us lucky enough to have shed our rose-colored glasses, but still want to maintain relationwhipes with family and friends still entangled in the borg's web, a pragmatic approach, akin to, but less radical than "fading": just slip out to the periphery, treat the kh as one would a church, i. e. show up once in a while, make the occasional comment (ideally without compromising your real convictions and, better yet, worded as to provoke a bit of thought without raising eyebrows); being politely but non-commital, and, after a few "so longs," go home after the closing prayer.
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generation teaching reconsidered
by inbetween inwas thinking about this new generation teaching, and to some extend it makes sense, let me explain.. first of all, i personally believe, it only applied to jesus time, it only made sense there, and when jesus talked about it, in the year 33, this generation certainly observed the events leading to jerusalems destruction 70 ce.
( even though the context does not really give much hint, since he talks about the sign of the son of man being seen in heaven etc, something that did not happen in the first century).
the main question is, what is a generation ?.
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In general usage, what comes to mind when people refer to "The Greatest Generation," the "Baby Boomer Generation", "Gen X", etc. .... are these all overlapping or melding it one massive "generation" or do they connote a specificity to a group of people born, and likely to die, within a relatively short span?
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For JWs Who Now 'Smell The Coffee:' A Survival Mechanism
by Room 215 infor those of us lucky enough to have shed our rose-colored glasses, but still want to maintain relationwhipes with family and friends still entangled in the borg's web, a pragmatic approach, akin to, but less radical than "fading": just slip out to the periphery, treat the kh as one would a church, i. e. show up once in a while, make the occasional comment (ideally without compromising your real convictions and, better yet, worded as to provoke a bit of thought without raising eyebrows); being politely but non-commital, and, after a few "so longs," go home after the closing prayer.
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For those of us lucky enough to have shed our rose-colored glasses, but still want to maintain relationwhipes with family and friends still entangled in the Borg's web, a pragmatic approach, akin to, but less radical than "fading": just slip out to the periphery, treat the KH as one would a church, i. e. show up once in a while, make the occasional comment (ideally without compromising your real convictions and, better yet, worded as to provoke a bit of thought without raising eyebrows); being politely but non-commital, and, after a few "so longs," go home after the closing prayer.
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I Have stop go in room of the kingdom
by marcopolo ini have stopped going assemblies.
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i am separating from my wife, the climate in the my house is very become incompatible .. .
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Ti compiango, amico... coraggio
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CO visit comments: Facebook & new "generation" teaching
by sir82 injust a couple more gems from the recent co visit:.
in his meeting with elders / ms, he was warning of the "dangers" of the internet.
following is a more or less accurate quotation:.
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so the generations overlap, like the shingles on a roof..... but is still one generation... all quite logical
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Special meeting in Vienna, Austria June 8th, 2010
by Desilusionnee inwe've got a special meeting in vienna, austria on june 8th (all austrian jw are invited to come to vienna) and i'm really curious about what they are going to tell us.
did you have such a meeting?
desillusionnee.
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I know this sounds cynical, but these events sound like excuses for junkets for the GB. They get to fly somewhere first-class, get treated like the pope, adulation by the masses and all they have to do is give a one-hour talk, scaring the audience with armageddeon talk, and "soon, very soon" pronouncements.
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New CO talk: Be loyal to Org. even if you get weird instructions or can prove them wrong doctrinally!
by sir82 intheme was something about "loyalty to jehovah's visible organization".. i have neither the time nor inclination to summarize the whole thing, but a few points stood out:.
even if it causes you personal hardship.
example: joshua & caleb returned from spy trip to promised land with good report, but were "outvoted" by the other 10 spies.
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Mary, those quotes from the fifties are very interesting; I believe JWs overall, and within obvious limits, had a lot more latitude to speek freely then than now. A lot has changed since the internet ear open the floodgates on disclosure
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DC 2010 Releases and info
by JWFreak insorry i have been very busy and forgot.
as promised.
friday afternoon.
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As I've said here before, I bet that the Jeremiah book is nothing more than a warmed-over series of WT articles from 1979-1980, authored by Freddie Franz. There's nobody there remotely capable of his unique brand of eccentric Bible exegesis. They're left with self-promotion and behavior manipulation as their two remaining cards.
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New CO talk: Be loyal to Org. even if you get weird instructions or can prove them wrong doctrinally!
by sir82 intheme was something about "loyalty to jehovah's visible organization".. i have neither the time nor inclination to summarize the whole thing, but a few points stood out:.
even if it causes you personal hardship.
example: joshua & caleb returned from spy trip to promised land with good report, but were "outvoted" by the other 10 spies.
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They don't dare repeat this dreck to an uninitiated audience; no wonder they've conceived a "Kool-Aid" WT to screen off craziness of this sort from the "worldly" (read "normal and well-adjusted") public!
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2010 "Remain Close to Jehovah" Talks
by garlic81 ininformation taken from the june 2010 awake.
my guesses for releases this year will be an update creation book and a book on jeremiah.
two books were released as recently as 2008 so i don't think this would be out of the question.. friday.
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I heard they were going to stitch together the series of 1979-1980 WT articles on Jeremiah and repackage it as a book. Since there's no one close to Freddy's skill at writing material of this ilk, these spirutally bankrupt geezers will recycle his stuff and fob it off as "new light."